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hi everyone and welcome back to that ufo

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podcast my name is andy and it's a

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breaking news podcast for the well 12th

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of september but we're recording this on

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the 13th dan's joining me for this one

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as usual dan how are we i'm great thank

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awesome now listen i've got questions

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dan as we were just discussing

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previously okay uh we had some some

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breaking news yesterday it was a busy

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day um for me and we were recording

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listener colin last night stuff was

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happening as we were um doing the

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call-in stuff as well now

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breaking news it seemed at first step

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max muscovitz i think i'm getting his

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name right now again handsome dude uh he

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was in san marino he had traveled from

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from holland he stays in holland doesn't

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he yeah yeah yeah he traveled from

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holland down to san marino which is um

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an area of italy

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which is commendable yeah you know nice

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road trip i would as well no doubt

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beautiful scenery but max traveled down

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to meet up with luella zondo and also

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attend attend the conference for our

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media point of view as well which is

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awesome um and max put on there with

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some breaking news and i was messaging

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yourself as well to find out what is

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this breaking news what's been said

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what's happened but it turns out if i'm

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correct dan the breaking news is

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actually something that happened

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stateside while lou was was over in san

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marino yeah

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yeah that's correct and and what what

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maxine lou brought to the table was to

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the the bill that had been introduced

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stateside and kind of emphasize a few

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what is the bill itself dan you've

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you've looked into this you've got the

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numbers and stuff there you love reading

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a bill don't you these days um

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and tell us a little bit about it

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sure so i'll start kind of at the

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beginning so last year we had a uap bill

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go through congress um all our hopes and

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dreams were pinned on that that was um

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called s3905 later on it became s-4049

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it's worth remembering that as these

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things go on these numbers are going to

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change and these bills are going to

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change even more so this year so the

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as as who did the uh the bill last year

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which is was the language that chris

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they got into the the covid bill as the

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authorization act and for this we have

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wrong so i apologize if so but he

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upon the establishment of or it called

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force nasa you know all those kind of

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different groups like that but just to

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uap task force would go away because

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properly funded and let me come in there

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that's fine because like we said the uap

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task force into that permanent body

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cool proposed name for this this body um

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strategic anomaly resolution which i

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very official it doesn't roll off the

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tongue but yeah it doesn't it does

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said it's in the national security

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interest of the united states to know

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what is flying in our skies whether

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emerging tech from strategic competitors

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and adverse adversaries or aerial

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phenomena from unknown origins our

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military must have a full intelligence

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picture and the tools to respond quickly

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creates a permanent office dod to

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comprehensively evaluate these uaps and

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i'm proud to announce its inclusion in

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the house version of the ndaa

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so reuben's pretty

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people will probably not recognize his

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name at least outside of america because

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he's new to this kind of subject but

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it's great to see someone come out

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swinging like that taking this subject

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seriously and the key points highlighted

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by lou are worth kind of touching on

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because they bring up a few things that

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weren't in the other bill and they're

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very specific questions that allude to

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some you know potentially interesting

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conversations to max and lou

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lou presented an ai filter software um

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that was able to identify everything in

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a video you know whether it was playing

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a balloon so on so forth and apply kind

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of uh filters to it and and separate the

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the dodgy stuff that we all know and

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sixth observable biological effects we

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yet and finally this bill does that um

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it's considering the human factor which

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we we've heard a few stories of people

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being affected by being close to these

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craft but

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you know surely there are more out there

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um and it'll be affecting people in ways

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that we don't yet understand so it's

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great and i'm sure gary nolan's kind of

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celebrating that it his work is being

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legitimized and he might be able to

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you know be be fully open with what his

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his aims are not very shy about it

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anyway but when talking to his

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colleagues the stigma will go away now

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materials and louisiana actually issued

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a quote for this so i'll just read

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when when lou was asked about roswell

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specifically states that the department

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of defense and the intelligence

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community must report to congress

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any material collected by the united

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states or its allies big deal and that's

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quote probably even the big deal but

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world have happened we know they've

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happened between five eyes partners and

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danis people that was a lovely summary

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so far anyway so i appreciate that dan's

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the first one is just to make clear that

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these so those bill numbers will more

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that as a a final bill which as part of

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absolutely they're going to be hammering

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the last year we had one build issue we

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last year we were wondering whether it

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was going to happen at all this year

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we're just hammering out the details um

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this is happening it's just a case of

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how often the reports are going to come

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the the one

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bill asks for every 90 days the other

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one kind of says for every year um and

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you know people will argue over that

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just like wheel will on twitter and

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that's their jobs to do it and they'll

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hammer it out and who knows we might get

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now dan you might not be able to answer

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this question you can answer quite a lot

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of them for me the materials part of

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this had a lot of people talking online

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and i was i was taking some time to look

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over it last night and a few different

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people got in touch with me just

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listeners asking about you know does

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craft to wheeled out now we're now

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talking about something that happened

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any if not all of that material which

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i'm just going to go with the

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presumption in my belief is that it does

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as isn't with the government anymore and

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multiple times over the years we don't

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know that

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how exactly would any official

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government organization get a hold of

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that or could they as part of this bill

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when it's probably no longer in the

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hands of the government

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well what should happen is

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that to some extent there will be a

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paper trail and that paper trail will

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stop when it enters private industry so

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we're basically kind of saying hey

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whatever you have

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even you know if it's a craft fantastic

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if it's not we just want to know and we

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can follow those breadcrumbs then to the

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programs that we suspect exist um and

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probably do you know to people like

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uh

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for example lockheed um and lockheed was

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it escapes me now they were they were

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bought out by another company um that

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has a long history and there's there's a

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few aerospace companies that did that as

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well

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is that not a really easy way to hide

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this stuff though unfortunately to come

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out because whether it's bigelow or

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lockheed or the people who owned it

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before or i don't even know how this

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stuff works properly research is far

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better than me well but no doubt within

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lockheed there's divisions and divisions

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and divisions and people within lockheed

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will be privy to certain information

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that others aren't

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because they do a lot of different

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things within the remit

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i just don't see how if this stuff is

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has been handed over through generations

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to different people and facilities

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how it would come out because surely

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when that paper trail stops

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it stops and these companies i'm sure

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wouldn't want to hand over anything

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they've got either

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well this this is part of removing the

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stigma i think that people

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you know once this is in the bill

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people who are involved with this are

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kind of being given essentially a thumbs

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up to come forward and start talking

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about what they saw

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so

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we might have

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you know we always look at things like

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breadcrumbs so

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there's not going to be a guy that says

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yes i worked on a ufo craft but someone

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might come forward and say hey

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you know after that paper trail stopped

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the year following that someone brought

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to me in a case this light feathery

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crazy strong material that we tested and

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that was when i worked at lockheed and i

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didn't know what it was and you know we

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can kind of start putting those puzzle

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pieces together but you're also

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absolutely correct that we just might

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never know

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not for that particular piece anyway and

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that's i just don't want to sound like

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i'm dampening this down but the point is

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that people again should not expect this

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to be the wheeling out of any particular

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crash or materials it's it's for me

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potentially something that will help

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going forward

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but

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again don't don't expect materials to be

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wheeled out you know left right and

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center because i don't think that's

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necessarily what's going to happen but

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like dan said makes a really good point

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what may come of it as we get another

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bob lazar

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in the sense that people who may or may

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not have worked on different craft in

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the past may come forward

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and that would be pretty cool as well

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especially if we had

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employees maybe of the last 20 or 30

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years who are still working still around

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still active still involved come forward

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but with them stories are backing up

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other people's stories potentially as

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well i have a concern no dan and i i

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shared this with you before

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are we going to lose people like luella

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zondo to this new

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governmental faction because if i'm in

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the government and i'm looking at okay

382
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we've got a new group starting up as

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crazy as it sounds we are going to be

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officially investigating looking at and

385
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discussing ufos uaps

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this guy louis lozando used to work with

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us he has been doing x y and z and he's

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got all this going let's get this guy

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back on side and let's get him back in

390
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the team because there's no one better

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to run this

392
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now that would be great for lou i'm sure

393
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and and great for the subject and in one

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way but i think there's a lot of us who

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would be

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disappointed because no doubt with that

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and that new responsibility would come

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a less

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able

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and

401
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open loyola zondo given new

402
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responsibilities would that be fair yeah

403
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i think that's fair to say it would be a

404
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less public-facing role right like if

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you had those departments set up if

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there was a public face in part of it

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you'd

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there would be a team of people uh you

409
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know it kind of doing what

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we think susan

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uh goff does now um

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but you know not not so

413
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narrow sighted i guess um

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[Music]

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lou always says that his his commitment

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and his oath is to the american people

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so

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i could see him going back you know

419
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going somewhere where he would be most

420
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effective but for me where he would be

421
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most effective would be in a an

422
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international body not associated with

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government you know not necessarily

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speaking for the us government but

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speaking of someone that's

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very experienced you know and we we

427
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don't really know the extent of lew's

428
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experience yet we've had hints

429
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and it seems to be huge you know it

430
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seems that he's had his own experiences

431
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it seems that he's seen a lot more than

432
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he tells us you know even the explosive

433
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things that he suggested that he's

434
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probably seen stuff ten times better

435
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than that um

436
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so wherever he lands

437
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you know i'm i'm happy but i i hope it's

438
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in a place where he still gets to talk

439
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to us because i think he's really great

440
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and effective at doing that

441
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sure listen things are still ongoing out

442
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in san marino i would encourage people

443
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to keep an eye on max moscowitz's

444
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channel um he's very active on social

445
00:16:02,710 --> 00:15:59,920
media he will be tweeting links he's out

446
00:16:05,829 --> 00:16:02,720
there just now with lou and others and

447
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he he is one of us he is one of the

448
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can i don't know do we call ourselves

449
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media now but you know i said to him

450
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when i went on max's channel like a few

451
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weeks back and

452
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you know i said to him the the thing of

453
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you know none of us paid to do this it's

454
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all our passion and so on so forth and

455
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he reminded me he was like no dude i'm

456
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actually a journalist this is my job

457
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this is what i'm paid to do and i was

458
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like oh god yeah that's true you're not

459
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quite the same in the same position as

460
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myself and you andy

461
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it's yeah he is very much officially

462
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media film maker uh journalist so it's

463
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great he's done that uh and us on the

464
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grassroots of grassroots ufo media let's

465
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call ourselves that maybe um are are

466
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looking to people like max who have

467
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managed to get himself out there and

468
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hopefully that'll be us next year if

469
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this is going to be a regular thing that

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we can actually get over it'll be a

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flight and a train ride for us i've been

472
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looking at it today to be honest but

473
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that's that's more than doable if this

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kind of stuff is going to help get can i

475
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the news out quicker for people as well

476
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but keep an eye on max's channel keep an

477
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eye on social media if there's anything

478
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more worthy reporting from a news point

479
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of view we'll do another breaking news

480
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podcast of course um but yeah for now

481
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that's that's what's been happening

482
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you did have um someone with him as well

483
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lance mangia who filmed third eye spies

484
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and put that film together so

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i would figure that any news on lou's

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part from what's gone down in san marino

487
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you know with some meetings and lectures

488
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and things like that i i would imagine

489
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you know lance would be responsible for

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yeah

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awesome

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and just before we go off because this

493
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has been a nice short one for people

494
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just to update them on what's been

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happening in our thoughts and get some

496
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of the the basics hashed out because

497
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these are questions i've had for for dan

498
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as well and following this so it's been

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good it gets a lot right like all these

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different buildings and when when you're

501
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not when you don't live in america and

502
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you don't really know how this stuff

503
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works it's you know i i am happy to

504
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admit that i'm only just starting to

505
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feel like okay i kind of understand

506
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what's happening yeah and it's nice to

507
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clear it up because you see it being

508
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reported online and people make mistakes

509
00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:07,360
and they get bill numbers wrong or they

510
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confuse one bill with another and that's

511
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really easy to do and it's only when i

512
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sit down and get a chance to look at it

513
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myself and start asking questions

514
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that i can get corrected and i think you

515
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know what other people are going to have

516
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that same thing so it's good to get to

517
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kind of hash out and clear it up as well

518
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because it's for me it's not it's not

519
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disclosure this isn't a huge step

520
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but it's a good one it's a positive one

521
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it's a step forward i think big

522
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developments could come from this down

523
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the line lewis seems to be hinting at

524
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that as well and it's it's exciting and

525
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it's good to see things are kind of

526
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rolling on let's let's remember less

527
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than three months ago we had the uap

528
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task force report published we're less

529
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than three months on

530
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and here's another

531
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piece of progress

532
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never mind what's happened in the

533
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meantime where there has been drips and

534
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drabs

535
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but this is where we're at now we're in

536
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less than three months we've had another

537
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leap forward so

538
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who said um lou said something pertinent

539
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to what you're saying uh

540
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someone asked him about you know were

541
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you disappointed with the uaptf

542
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uh report and he said it that has that

543
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report wasn't designed to say something

544
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it was designed to do something

545
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so what we're seeing now

546
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is the result of what that report was

547
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designed to do i.e smash through the

548
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sick stigma start getting those the

549
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right people in positions where they can

550
00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:27,600
talk about this stuff openly and like

551
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you said within three months of that

552
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happening we're already seeing these two

553
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new bills in congress like everyone

554
00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:34,320
smell the roses you know

555
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absolutely and that gives me a chance

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just to confirm for people who haven't

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seen it on on twitter ross cool talked

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will be on the podcast i'm recording

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that one week today which will be monday

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the 20th of september i've got a ton of

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questions already and for ross from last

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month please feel free to send over more

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to ufo ufouapam

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gmail.com and i've got a tweet up just

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now that if you like and retweet you'll

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be put in a draw to win a copy of the

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audiobook of ross's in plain sight so

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that'll be running for the next day or

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so so please head over to twitter and

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check out just like and retweet for a

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chance to win a copy of the book but dan

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and i have more listener calls to go and

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record the listener colin show will be

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out

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later in the week and into next week as

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well it's going to be in a couple of

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parts we have a lot of calls to get

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through with people so looking forward

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to that one done dan thanks for joining

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me thank you

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and see you again soon

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that is all for this week's show thank

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you very much for listening please

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remember to leave the podcast review on

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folks as always keep looking up you

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never know what you might see

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like alice was playing face for the

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parliament effect the little [\h__\h]

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hovered right inside of my window when i

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[Music]

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there was something on my head and

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everything was weird and everything was

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red i helped my boys they thought this

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[Music]

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consider your heart considered

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[Music]

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thank you